Leave a Reply. /r/teslore is a subreddit dedicated to the discussion and creation of the vast lore of The Elder Scrolls. Lamae Beol[censored for Gamefaqs] was the first, Serana and her mother underwent the same on one of Bal's summoning days. Only reason it wasnt a stomp is that Boros only uses that as a last resort and it doesnt scale to any of his other stats. strong odds it wasn't anyone even close to as powerful as the Dragonborn. the vestige is as weak at night as they are at day, they are not immune to poison, disease damage or frost either and she isn't a vampire lord like Harkon is because if she was then the vestige would be one as well on account of being turned by her. Once Lamae was reborn a vampire she turned from a pure hearted, shy young lady into a blood and pain obsessed monster. Molag Bal; Serana; Harkon; Valerica; Lamae Bal; first person POV; Transformation; Betrayal ; Summary. After sacrificing a thousand of innocents to the Daedric, Molag Bal granted Harkon immortality, turning him and his family into pure-blood vampires. The two by bal are from Lamae bal and Harkon. Females seeking to gain the pure-blood vampirism are required to undergo a ritual with Molag Bal. So it could be because the virus is actually different that makes the lord thing happen. (Lamae x OC) Lamae Bal, or more commonly known as the first vampire, the blood matron, was mentioned in a book in Skyrim and referenced by Serena. Thanks. Yes, Bal created Lamae in that era, but it still doesn't mean the Volkihar are the only vampires in Skyrim that originated back then or if Harkon is a Volkihar. And so; Lamae, (who is known to us as blood-matron) imprecated her foul aspect upon the folk of Tamriel, and begat a brood of countless abominations, from which came the vampires, most cunning of the night-horrors. A tradition developed … Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It is recorded that after the ordeal, Molag Bal shed a droplet of blood on her brow and left her to die.. She was a worshipper of Arkay. Presumably the only reason there's no such thing as a "Son of Coldharbour" is because the whole ceremony is essentially mantling the creation of the first vampire, and so men don't get that additional special status, as she was a woman. EDIT: Forgot to finish my thought. No they aren't only Harkon, his wife and his daughter are, why do you think if you cure yourself they tell you to go to one of them to turn you back into a Vampire Lord, it's because they themselves can't because they are lesser vampires. Lamae Bal, the enemy of Molag Bal and Arkay. Can a newly-turned vampire, a shadow of her past, bring her comfort? She infused her consciousness into the vampirc bloodline. But yes, Lamae Bal was the first vampire, blessed/cursed through rape by Molag himself. The oldest living vampire, before the player kills him, is probably Vyrthur, the snow elf Arch Curate. Which means after Valerica got hammered by M.B., she rode Harkon like a race horse while M.B. Lamae Bal is a former priestess of Arkay, the unwilling bride of the Lord of Domination, Molag Bal, and the mother of all the vampires of Tamriel. Free For All.!!! Works; Bookmarks; Filters; List of Bookmarks. Lamae Bal hates the one who turned her into a Vampire but also hates the ones her did not answer her prays to cure her. ReImagines (Replaces) Harkon's Sword as a vampiric sword known as Blood Matron. You can only get it directly if he is allowed to ... a Daughter of Coldharbor. Despite their best efforts, however, she appeared to have died within a fortnight. There he finds Morbius. Harkon and Serana and Valerica are all pure-blooded directly-bestowed-by-Bal vampires, and as far as can be determined, have the same powers. Lamae Beolfag was a Nedic virgin who was raped by Molag Bal. Lamae Bal is a former priestess of Arkay, the unwilling bride of the Lord of Domination, Molag Bal, and the mother of all the vampires of Tamriel. The battle will take place in a unique arena, half of which being the Summit of Apocrypha, and the other half being a section of Coldharbour resembling the chamber in which Harkon is fought in the Dawnguard DLC. He and his brother are from the late Merethic Era, which ended over 4,500 years ago. (Also because then Harkon wouldn't have needed his daughter or wife to end the world and the plot would be over.). Harkon was powerful enough to challenge the Dragonborn who was made to fight Alduin, He had so much power that you needed a God Weapon to break his shield...enough said, strong odds are he probably is more powerful then her. User Info: Umm-idfk. For Harkon's Lore power levels, think Dracula in Dracula Untold, he's defeated armies. Harkon was probably the first vampire directly blessed/cursed that was not raped. The very first vampire was Lamae Bal, but she died long before the time of any of the Elder Scrolls games. But I do not believe that she is the last by any means. Which means after Valerica got hammered by M.B., she rode Harkon like a race horse while M.B. Son corps inanimé fut découvert par une tribu de nomades, qui la recueillirent et tentèrent en vain de soigner ses blessures. VS Battles. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. She is like Obi-Wan as in a force ghost. "Ps. I am however, under the belief that Lamae is the first that Molag Bal directly gifted. ReImagines (Replaces) Harkon's Sword as a vampiric sword known as Blood Matron. Fearing death, he called upon the Daedric Prince Molag Bal to grant him eternal life, hoping that it would ensure the future of his dynasty. The leader of the Vampire faction, Harkon, narrates that the Dragonborn has found their fortress and returned his daughter, who is shown carrying an Elder Scroll on her back. Lord Harkon, the progenitor of the Volkihar Clan. Wiki Thread Moderator. Such confluences are called Daughters of Coldharbour. The Opusculus Lamae Bal ta Mezzamortie tells of how the curse of vampirism came about, owing its creation to the Daedric Prince Molag Bal. A street urchin who was abandoned by her parents at a very young age found herself unwillingly turned into a tool of revenge by the Daedric Prince of Domination himself. So Lamae don't the only thing she could do to get back at him. Serana was the only thing he had left of her. Après lui avoir fait subir de terribles sévices, Molag Balversa une goutte de sang sur le front de sa victime et la laissant pour morte, gisant à terre. Include crossovers; Exclude crossovers Saitama hits Harkon with the serious punch and he gets blown to bits. Long before she betrayed him it became clear that his beloved wife had died during that ritual, leaving a pale shadow in her place. Tumblr is a place to express yourself, discover yourself, and bond over the stuff you love. Once a powerful ruler, Lord Harkon began to fear his own mortality and struck a deal with the Daedric Prince Molag Bal. 2,794 367. TOAAPRESENCE1. Such confluences are called Daughters of Coldharbour. Immediate disappointment in his quest for solitude awaited in the form of the lowliest member of his court, sweeping the floor. Centuries later, a warlord in Atmora rose to power- a great warrior, and king to a large swathe of lands. Morbius considers himself to be the most powerful of One such case was Lord Harkon, who claims to have slaughtered a thousand innocents in order to gain this power, though this might be an exaggeration due to contradictory evidence. The other method Harkon straight up tells you, that he sacrificed one thousand innocent souls to Molag Bal. But I do not believe that she is the last by any means. The tale goes that Molag Bal disliked Arkay, an Aedra who showed great pride in his sphere of influence, the cycle of life and death. /r/teslore is a subreddit dedicated to the discussion and creation of the vast lore of The Elder Scrolls. [3] Daughters of Coldharbour. The First Vampire takes the first spot on our list of favorite vampires not included in Vampire Week. This one is the biggest of them all she is Molag bal's WIFE by force witch would make her a deadric prince her self not strong enough to defeat molag that's why she's making an army to destroy molag bal for good and not only she's his wife and the first vampire she was gifted by 2 deadric princes molag bal vampirism and Hircine strength, 5. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. She seeks to eradicate the followers of Arkay and Molag Bal, but her fury and bloodlust take a disastrous turn, leaving her to face her own insanity. One such case was Lord Harkon, who claims to have slaughtered a thousand innocents in order to gain this power, though this might be an exaggeration due to contradictory evidence. Skyrim Battles - Frea vs Harkon vs Serana vs Lydia vs Miraak vs Elder Dragon.!!! His beloved daughter. Why this is the case is poorly understood. For the lore article, see Nede. This is a good one too even its not in the lores or anything but I did some investigation and it is possible for Lamae's clan to hybridized the vampire and the werewolf because she was gifted by hircine giving her blood line and only her blood line able to become hybrids, Ps. Let’s look at Lamae Beolfag - more commonly known as Lamae Bal, the first vampire, a Daughter of Coldharbour. The most important thing to remember about sufferers of Noxiphilic Sanguivoria is that, as the name implies, they are not weakened by daylight as in other strains of vampirism, but are, instead, strengthened during the nighttime hours. The other is to be given the gift by Molag Bal himself directly. Malgré leurs efforts, elle mour… Lamae Bal will appear and start the ritual. Your just making those last 2 parts up, She has nothing to do with Hircine and in a fight between the two Harkon would be the odds on favor for reasons I have already mentioned, He and Lamae are of similar age but here lies the diffrence, you see Lamae Bal was just a Priestess of Arkay where as Lord Harkon was Royalty and a Warlord which usually would mean he was a trained killer even before he became a vampire, he also lived up until the 4th era and according to Valerica had never been defeated where it does appear that Lamae Bal is already destroyed by the 2nd era, her crypt is in coldharbour in case you didn't notice, do you ever wonder who put her there? I believe the honour of being a Lord is akin to being a Werewolf who is lucky enough to wear the Ring of Hircine if anything, the player can become a Vampire in ESO yet shows no signs of being a Vampire Lord at all and also lacks the power to become one which one would think is odd, as someone turned by her should definitely of inherited her powers but no the vestige does not. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Harkon is a vary old vampire but he can't use most of his abilities unless in vampire lord form as for Lamae Bal she don't need to be in lord form she and all of her followers have the powers of all vampire clans of Tamriel Harkon only has Clan Valkyrie powers. I am fairly sure we can discount the story as a legend due to the evidence we have at hand. As i notice vampire bloodline can be created by powerful wizard and the story Opusculus Lamae Bal ta Mezzamortie said that Lamae Beolfag is one of the origin of vampirism and there may be other people who made a pact with molag bal… The term is partially derived from the name of Molag Bal's plane of Oblivion, Coldharbour Being pure-blooded, all Daughters of Coldharbour are also powerful Vampire Lords. That was a bit hard to read, considering the entire post was 2 sentences. I am however, under the belief that Lamae is the first that Molag Bal directly gifted. His wife and daughter were raped, and as far as I can recall, they do not have that form (and if you receive vampirism from Serana you get Harkon's strain - which I think is an overlook by the devs). I marked all the Worm Assassins on the map, so you don’t miss any of them. Lord Harkon strode into his daughter's chambers. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Lamae was discovered by a tribe of nomads, who took care of her and attempted to heal her wounds. 0001AF40 So Lamae probably can not be killed as long as Molag Bal is alive, whereas Harkon is flat out dead killed by the LDB. (Lamae x OC) Lamae Bal did to the men of the village what Molag Bal did to her, so Pure Blood Vampire females can pass Pure Vampirism onto males. Molag Bal converted Lamae Beolfag to a vampire by raping her, Lamae was pure in both heart and body and when defiled by the cruel Daedra, Lamae's purity seemed to completely invert. Include crossovers; Exclude crossovers Mature, Not Rated, Teen And Up Audiences ; Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Choose Not To Use Archive Warnings; F/F, Gen; Series in Progress; 02 Sep 2020. Another Pureblooded Vampire in ESO by the name of Count Vernadis Ravenwatch does not appear to be a Vampire Lord eithers so I don't believe being a pureblood equals being a Lord, their is a Vampire however in Ghratwood who is referred to as a Vampire Lord and considering he is never seen in Vampire Lord form makes me think that if someone is a Lord they will be referred to as such regardless of what form they are in, however this could simply imply he is a Leader of a Vampire Clan but no one ever refers to Lamae or Verandis as Lord's as in the Bat Monster Kind. (Spoilers Ahead) have a theroy that I have mashed up with a few other theories and I would like to share it, for those who have played ESO and done the Vampire Quest, it shows how Lamae Bal became the first ever Vampire to exist and it is said in the USEP if memory serves me correctly, she was turned in the 105th year of the first era however as it is it shows no evidence to suggest that she is a Vampire Lord whatsoever as in being able to transform into the Bat monster and she never refers to herself as such. Lamae Bal (1) Harkon (Elder Scrolls) (1) Valerica (Elder Scrolls) (1) Exclude Relationships Female Dovahkiin | Dragonborn/Serana (1) Harkon/Valerica (Elder Scrolls) (1) Exclude Additional Tags Vampires (1) Canon - Video Game (1) Dawnguard (1) Other tags to exclude More Options Crossovers. ... Auri-El & Stendarr -Vs- Molag Bal [Legendary Settings] - Duration: 9:32. Ok, I'm playing on the default difficulty and manage to get Harkon down to just a sliver of health...but he keep using DL on Serana and any gargoyles I summon to heal all the way back up. Skyrim Battles - Frea vs Harkon vs Serana vs Lydia vs Miraak vs Elder Dragon.!!! An altar that bears a resemblance to the Altar of Molag Bal in Markarth is shown, which seems pertinent as Molag Bal is considered to be the creator and patron deity of Vampires. Vampires can be traced back to the Daedric Prince Molag Bal, the Lord of Domination, who created the first vampire sometime around the First Era. All of lord Harkens clan are vampire Lords They just don't change.into there form because it wasn't written into the game". Lamae Beolfag was a Nedic tribeswoman who was raped by the Daedric Prince of domination and enslavement, Molag Bal. So Lamae Beolfag was raped, no question; but we don't really know for sure that Bal's followers also rape the women they offer to him. I'm sure I remember Serana saying they ALL had to do some pretty distasteful things afterwards, but it's been a while since I played through Dawnguard. Molag Bal Daedra Herceg, melynek feladata a hatalom, illetve a halandók szolgasorba taszítása. Can a newly-turned vampire, a shadow of her past, bring her comfort? Lamae Bal, la première fille d'Havreglace. poked Serana. Lord Harkon travels to Marvel universe pursuiting the Infinity gauntlet. However, Serana and her father are pretty different people (and we never normally see Valerica in combat, I don't think) so in-universe it can be explained as her having a distaste for the form, although either way it's never explicitly stated. They claim that the sword was stabbed through Lamae Beolfag’s abdomen to pin her down, and keep her alive, while Molag Bal raped her. Les Filles d'Havreglace sont des femmes ayant reçu le don vampirique après avoir effectuées un rituel avec le prince Daedrique Molag Bal.. L'origine du nom fait référence au royaume de Molag Bal en Oblivion, le plan d'Havreglace. We know Lamae hates Molag Bal. So I wonder if Harkon was dominated by Molag Bal. They occupied a great territory fromMorrowindtoHammerfelland were constituted by various tribal groups. regardless of gender. Blood Matron is a vampiric blade of unknown origin though, of the few that know of the blade’s existence, many believe it was forged by Molag Bal himself or for him as a gift by a talented blacksmith. Combat does not equal power. Umm-idfk 8 years ago #2. Lord Harkon is only a few centuries younger. poked Serana. I believe Harkon was the first vampire as the origanal vampire Lamae Bal will not work with the times in game or her time frame is misunderstood as she is cited as a first era. Personally I like this theory as it would make the Dragonborn seem more significant as a Vampire other then being the only Dragonborn with Vampirism as after you kill Harkon the Vampiric blood within you is quite possibly the only thing remaining of he who is very likely the Original Vampire Lord. We see our fair count Ravenwatch also alludes to being directly gifted by Molag Bal. They occupied a great territory fromMorrowindtoHammerfelland were constituted by various tribal groups. It is recorded that after the ordeal, Molag Bal shed a droplet of blood on her brow and left her to die. But yes, Lamae Bal was the first vampire, blessed/cursed through rape by Molag himself. Molag Bal calls upon the ancient vampire Harkon and Hermaeus Mora pulls Miraak from his realm, and the two fight in an arena inbetween the realms of Coldharbour and Apocrypha. Devenu créature de la nuit à l'insatiable soif de sang, le premier vampire était né. To the best of my knowledge, the oldest extant vampire at the time of Skyrim is Arch-Curate Vyrthur of the Snow Elves in Dawnguard. Two by molag bal and the other deadric lord. I also fixed my first post up a bit and split it into easier to read paragraphs, They never really fleshed out lord harkons character in dawnguard imho. The tribe then prepared to set her body aflame in a funeral pyre, but as it … Lamae Bal did to the men of the village what Molag Bal did to her, so Pure Blood Vampire females can pass Pure Vampirism onto males. Dec 22, 2019 #8 The pen or the … "My lord!" The very first vampire was Lamae Bal, but she died long before the time of any of the Elder Scrolls games. Wasn't the sacrifice only to get Bal's attention? ... Auri-El & Stendarr -Vs- Molag Bal [Legendary Settings] - Duration: 9:32. There like three strands of the virus isnter. Go. When he was done, he abandoned them both. TheNedes are an ancient race ofMen, ancestors of modern-day Imperials. All of lord Harkens clan are vampire Lords They just don't change.into there form because it wasn't written into the game, "I saw a post on here but I couldn't comment on it but I saw some people say that harkon is stronger than Lamae Bal so here are some things to prove why Lamae is stronger". Lorewise Harkon is walking death. RinaldoGandolphi Most powerful is a matter of perspective. Also Game mechanics to adapt to an MMO setting, also if you want game mechanics involved then where is this added power at night? Jadis roi d'un pays depuis longtemps disparu, au pouvoir et aux possessions infinies, le seigneur Harkon n'eut bientôt comme seul obstacle à sa toute puissance, sa propre mortalité. Úgy is ismert, mint a Tervek Istene, az Erőszak Istene, Lelkek Aratója, a Brutalitás Ura, illetve mint a Düh Hercege. I don't believe that she is the only progenitor by any stretch of the imagination, Harkon, Serana and Valerica certainly confirmed that for us. The runt dropped his broomstick. "I'm so sorry, I should have known you were coming, I only wish I had been able to do—" "Ronthil…" "Yes, my lord." If he had known that all he needed was Auriel's Bow and the blood of a Daughter of Coldharbour, I have no doubt he would have been working towards achieving his goal in the period of time that Serana was sealed away. The game heavily implies the female members of the House are at least as powerful as Harkon. By night, these hunters are possessed of extreme fortitude and a powerful ability to recover from wounds, This is why I believe that it will be possible to become a hybrid and also look up werebat, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Lamar Demeatrice Jackson Jr. (born January 7, 1997) is an American football quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens of the National Football League (NFL). TheNedes are an ancient race ofMen, ancestors of modern-day Imperials. However, Serana and her father are pretty different people (and we never normally see Valerica in combat, I don't think) so in-universe it can be explained as her having a distaste for the form, although either way it's never explicitly stated. In one book, Molag Bal can also manifest in the form of a woman to a coven of Dark Priestess. When he was done, he abandoned them both. She seeks to eradicate the followers of Arkay and Molag Bal, but her fury and bloodlust take a disastrous turn, leaving her to face her own insanity. Religious ceremonies often take on symbolic elements of actual events, so I would imagine Bal worshipers are little different. Harkon was probably the first vampire directly blessed/cursed that was not raped. All we know is that he was turned by Bal in that time, but Lamae already existed before them. In exchange for this privilege he had to sacrifice 1000 innocents - which says something about how painful being raped by Molag would be. Soon. The oldest living vampire, before the player kills him, is probably Vyrthur, the snow elf Arch Curate. Harkon and Serana and Valerica are all pure-blooded directly-bestowed-by-Bal vampires, and as far as can be determined, have the same powers. Lamae bal vs Lord Harkon . They claim that the sword was stabbed through Lamae Beolfag’s abdomen to pin her down, and keep her alive, while Molag Bal raped her. The mortal whose life Lord Molag Bal had claimed when bestowing his blessing upon them. It's where your interests connect you with your people. Prev 1 2 Next. 'Soon, my darling. 31. When he was done, he abandoned them both. Tamriel was still young, and filled with danger and wondrous magick when Bal walked in the aspect of a man and took a virgin, Lamae Beolfag, from the Nedic Peoples. Obviously, only a fool would think otherwise. Harkon having that form is probably down to the unique way he became one and well you can pretty much replace him. Lamae Beolfag était une jeune femme d'une tribu nédique qui fut violée par le prince daedrique de la domination, Molag Bal. So it is plausible Molag might of been in the form of a woman when Harkon was given his power, though I bet he had his treatment like Lamae did to the men. For the lore article, see Nede. Legfőbb vágya, hogy halandó lelkeket gyűjtsön, melyeket saját uralma alá kerít, ezzel harcokat s viszályokat eredményezve a halandó birodalmakban. From her, she created other vampires. Here is the truth, Lamae Bal would not really be any different to someone like Valerica, they both became vampires the exact same way...Lamae Is just slightly older then she is, Harkon on the other hand is NOT a normal Vampire by any circumstances nor is his bloodline, he sacrificed 1000 souls to Molag Bal to become immortal, he wouldn't of done that for mundane vampirism. If the Dragonborn gets turned by Harkon he becomes a Vampire Lord, which leads me to believe if the Vestige can not become a Lord from lamae Bal then she herself is not one at all, another reason I have to believe this is that the other day I read a theory where someone suggested that Lamae Bal is not a Lord because she was the Proto-Vampire, when the entire idea of a Vampire did not exist, An experiment if you will while Lord Harkon became a Vampire by sacrificing the souls of 1000 people, which I believe this immense act of evil may have given birth to the Vampire Lord species, many people claim Harkon may come from the first era so then he would of become a Vampire Lord not long after Lamae Bal became a Vampire herself which provides evidence he may be the first of something. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. All participants probably undergo a symbolic rape of some sort. 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