so thank you thank you thank you!!! The cost of the bar? The chemical that is made from wood ash is sodium carbonate, not sodium hydroxide, so I’m really curious if you’re making NaOH at home . I hope this isn’t a stupid question, but I don’t see it addressed anywhere. Usually, in these bars I just use tiny amounts of fair trade shea butter (usually about 4 %) and about 7 % of fair trade babasu oil (instead of coconut) – that`s it! . If you can find it in a soap calculator, you can use it Soap Calc has quite a lot, including duck fat, bear tallow, goose fat, rabbit fat, goat tallow, and sheep tallow, among others! Hey, Marie! Tried a batch of this yesterday and it’s fine. I do not agree. I’m fairly new to soap making, and my scents are never very strong. Have a great week . For the exact same reasons you do. How would I now how many drops that is for each? I am doing so much better now. It is used for deep fry cooking, it is used in make up and in hand lotions. . Soaps will be solid even if you make them with 100% liquid oils, but they will be very soft (sort of like fudge). You make an excellent case for it, BTW. I don’t make it for sale, because vegetarian/vegan soaps seem to sell easier. However, my own experience has led me to believe that a soap with as little as 20% tallow will be a far nicer and creamier soap than a pure vegetable one. I just don’t want you to feel badly about the products you make if you choose to use tallow. But hey, it’s something to think about. So why, as a vegetarian, do I use lard or beef tallow in my soap? I am interested in new recipes using tallow. Manure. And is that generally true of all soap recipes, that one can simply elect to use CP or HP per the whim of the day, or the moment? I was wondering though (and i’m sorry if you’ve answered this in another question) but once you render it, you keep it in a ziploc bag BUT where do you store it? please pay attention to your halloween candy too. Thanks, Melanie. If babaçu is also called babassu, we can get that, too—it’s like coconut oil, but much more expensive. As for me personally, while I can appreciate and respect the use of an animal product that was, like you said, going in the garbage anyway, I’m not sure if I could consciously wash myself with (partial) animal fat. My batch did have almost no waste. Tallow is the rendered fat of a ruminant and lard is fat from pigs. Is tallow the same as lard? Also, my soap is made for my very, very dry and sensitive skin. I’d appreciate any links you may have . I’ve read that hot process soaps require less essential oils because they are added at a different point of the saponification process. She is vegetarian for non-religious reasons. I eat fish or shellfish once in a blue moon. I enjoy your site. Hi Jenny! anything with “palm oil”, “palm kernal”, “palm stearate”….anything with “palm” in it. I would definitely recommend adding some olive oil & shea butter—I love what both those oils do to my bars . Hey Maggie! I like using tallow. I was quite happy with the soaps and have gotten good response from customers, I have made a pure coconut oil soap with a 20% superfat. As more people recognize the ability of pastured animals to sustain and regenerate our soils, the more demand there is for grass-fed beef and forest-raised pork. Hi Katie—I must admit I’m rather thrilled I changed your mind As for your customers, you can label it as sodium lardate or sodium tallowate—the vegans will know, and the unreasonably/irrationally squeamish may not even notice until they’ve fallen in love with the bar! My bars are quite hard and each one lasts through days of constant use. Mine came out to 2 inches thick after rendering it. Weight. Anyway, in response to the soapers who asked where to get tallow, the brand was called Fluffo. I definitely agree that if someone IS going to kill an animal, every last bit of it should be used whenever possible. May 25, 2020 #4 sarimento1. My idea is to develop a recipe for a soap made from oils that are easy to get and inexpensive… I’m not really a doomsday prepper, but I do think about what might be available should some catastrophic event happen and all those luxurious oils are no longer available. Thank you for the help Marie. Anybody who uses palm oil or buys products containing palm oil are effectively beating an orangutan to death with big stick and giving it’s baby to their children to abuse until it dies. Don’t get me wrong, I also believe if it works for you, go with it. When it comes to sustainable ingredients, a lot of that depends on where you live. I didn’t realize how thick people generally cut their soap until now! I just read your article here and I am just about to use tallow for the first time. I’m asking because when you make soap it is generally recommended that you use a blend of oils to get a “complete” bar—one that a) moisturizes, b) lathers, and c) is hard and doesn’t turn into a pool of soap snot in your shower straight away. I’d have to go down the entirely vegetarian ingredient route, I don’t use anything that’s not vegetarian. Suet is harder at room temperature than tallow and lard. Is it a moisturizing oil? My first thought is you should ask your tallow/lard supplier to grind it for you—that helps a lot. Additionally, salt bars also run the risk of overheating so I do the same thing when I make those! Let me know how the soap turns out, I am always interested to hear how different animal fats perform in soap. ps…brand name is “Alaffia” The information in the response section of this article is amazing! I’m incredibly impatient and figured if I had a batch or 2 of home made soap already, I would then be more inclined to use cold processing. Dear Marie! Your soap sounds like a great, hard bar. I would love information about the comedogenic ratings about oils, butters and animal fats not just in soap making but in general. I guess when you put it all in perspective, I can see why even though you’re a vegetarian, you’re not really compromising on your beliefs per se. Thanks for this post – I found you through Frugally Sustainable. Just a thought. I kind of doubt you’d feel good about going with non fair-trade/rainforest/orangutan safe stuff, given your convictions about cows & CAFOs (which I totally agree with), Work longer cure times into your business model so you can use less/no lard/tallow or palm. Just thought I should mention it for anyone who is looking for a more convenient source. Well said, Danni. From Sydney, Australia. I love your oven method, it sounds much less smelly than the stove top way—I’ll have to try it the next time I’m rendering. The animal has already been killed (and not for its fat, obviously), and all we’re doing is using the meat (and only the cuts we like, for the most part), and throwing out everything else. Some of my best friends are orangutans, and its fantastic to read this awareness coming about!. My other option is cocoa butter, but I can think of nothing worse than getting all excited about a DIY project then waiting a whole year to use it. Honestly, I know basically nothing about bunnies (other than oooh, soft and cute! Beeswax can also negatively impact lather, even at relatively low concentrations. My first flop – i’m pretty happy about it though and even more so happy to be in the soap game finally! I will only use tallow in a similar product . And the sodium tallowate on labeling hasn’t been an issue either. Moreover, I have learned so many things from your`s and other people`s blog, so I am happy to give something back! 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