The excess holdings hurt your income anyway, so it's no use clinging to them. There is uncertainty in who will inherit, but age and prestige can increase the likelihood of succeeding, as can investing money in the Campaign Fund. For a guide on succession laws go here: Succession Laws For new players who need to deal with succession crises (e.g. dukes of 1 county (and 1 vassal or none) aren't more powerful than counts having 2-3 counties and those big counts are more dangerous than the small dukes and should get priority. First, you’ll need to make sure you have sufficient crown authority. In Crusader Kings 2, the default would be to change succession to Primogeniture and raise a good heir. Gender law []. The Board of Directors also reviews development and succession plans for Northeast's senior executive officers, as needed. (iii) If they still have not been pacified, see if you can appoint them to the council for any slot where you don't particularly mind them being (a replaced courtier won't rebel). Claim inheritance []. Small mod for Crusader Kings II v2.5.2 - Unlocks enatic and enatic/cognatic succession laws for most cultures and also allows women to occupy council positions and be commanders with those laws active, this is also true to true cognatic succession. You don't want to be giving them more than necessary. In order to change the succession law to Ultimogeniture a ruler needs to meet the following conditions: With Open succession (also known as Turkish succession), all titles of the ruler are inherited by the most powerful child. If the ruler has no children that can inherit, the law reverts to Primogeniture. You can lower the crown authority afterwards without losing the succession law. Try to preserve the structure of de iure duchies if you do need to give counties away. You can keep it in your demesne (if you don't exceed the limit) or give it to somebody else. [Changing succession law] Then there’s succession laws. Investiture succession is only available to unplayable characters, namely rulers of Catholic temples/bishoprics. the better upgraded, strategically located, or rich ones: for a county this typically relates to the number of baronies that exists under it (and counties with cities that have ports are likely to be richer), for a duchy to the number of counties under it but also check how many baronies those counties have, but also check out tax income and levy size on the province information tab; (vi) don't appease counts if you're going to give the respective whole duchy (to which they belong) away, don't appease barons if you're going to give the whole county (to which they belong) away (if you ever actually want to appease barons at all, which is rare unless you're small; barons don't rebel against powerful kings even if the revolt risk if 80% or something); their new liege will be your vassal instead and will have to deal with their loyalty, not you; (vii) don't give land to people with the ambitious trait unless you give them a lot of titles in one go and have a very good reason to give them that land (the penalty to opinion for ambitious is -50, which is very big, but if you give a duchy to a courtier for +140 to opinion, this is not overwhelming), and when you have the option, prefer people with high stewardship (they will earn more and thus pay more taxes); (viii) don't really try to appease people who have the ambitious trait or who hate you beyond any help unless you're ready to shower them with gifts, or else they will just have more power (including levies they can call and land you need to siege before they give up) when they do rebel and they most likely will rebel if they're at 10% risk or above, let alone >30%; (ix) remember that people with >10% revolt risk will actually rebel sooner or later before their rebellion risk gets down to 0%, so if you know you won't be able to appease someone, don't invest land or cash you need; And if you aren't favouring your dynasty members, you want vassals with high stewardship, especially if they will have their own vassals under them. Posted by. Dukes are valid electors in both kingdoms and empires. The oldest child of the ruler has a -10 opinion penalty towards their parent (if not the heir). The oldest child of the ruler has a -10 opinion penalty towards their parent, all other children set to inherit have a +10 opinion boost, all other dynasty members have a +10 opinion boost, and all vassals have a +5 opinion boost. Every kingdom you possess can have individual succession laws. In that case, each kingdom has its own succession laws. But don't fire a powerful vassal if he's already your Councillor and isn't really bad! And you want to give a council seat to your vassals if they are actually qualified (before you give them land or cash). Prolonged civil war isn't good for you. This command changes the government type of the character with the specified ID. Just don't get into situations where your new duke will desire your counties.). Now with all these mentions of laws, let’s go through what laws exist. You need Medium authority for Seniority, and High for Primogeniture. Succession is the inheritance of a title.It is triggered when the current holder of a title dies or abdicates.The order of succession depends on the title's succession laws.They also dictate how titles are shared between heirs, if the late ruler had multiple titles. Having spent countless hours assassinating rulers and heirs, I believe I have seen every possible situation and understood how the most common succession laws in Crusader Kings 2 work. And yes, this bonus stacks too. This is important to note: Any vassal or sub-vassal is eligible, whether they are of the present ruler's dynasty or not. If a ruler holds multiple titles, the succession laws of the highest ranked realm apply. These are: Salic Primogeniture Semi-salic Primogeniture Salic Consanguinity Semi-salic Consanguinity Salic Gavelkind Semi-salic Gavelkind Elective Law The Law of Succession decides who the heir to any ruler in the game is. The Duke of Saxony, in northern Germany, has an unmarried, adult male heir, which is what we need. The only real key to success in Crusader Kings 3 is succession, and the only way to fail is to die without an heir. His levies can help you crush the smaller vassals when they rebel (and the better his opinion of you, the more levies you will get). In order to change the succession law to Tanistry a ruler needs to meet the following conditions: With Ultimogeniture succession, all titles of the ruler are inherited by the youngest child. One of the biggest departures is succession laws. Open Elective succession is only available to unplayable characters, namely rulers of cities, rulers of certain religious holdings, mercenary captains, and religious heads (except the Caliphs or Fylkir). 4) The 3 percentage modifiers (25% same religion, 15% same culture, 20% de jure liege) do not apply to vassals that have a claim in the succession or on a certain kingdom etc. Here you can change your succession laws, see your heir(s), and check what titles, if any, you will lose when you die. Patrician Elective succession is always Agnatic. While paused, check out the vassal revolt risk icon at the top of your screen (the clenched golden fist), see which vassals are likely to cause trouble. For some reason it accepted the succession laws of the city rather than the previously established ones. The fact that you can't nominate a heir seems really strange and I can't make any sense of it. This makes it your main task throughout the game, whether you're a simple count or exalted emperor. normal feudal noble) because they don't give you normal income, even if you aren't above your demesne limit; (ii) if you are a king or emperor, you want to give duchies out first (until you have only 2) before giving actual land (baronies or counties) away if you don't have any counties in the respective duchy or if you're prepared to part with the county or counties that you do have there; this is because you need to go down to 2 duchies as a king anyway; (iii) normally you want to give away baronies before you start giving counties because baronies provide income from only themselves, while counties are essentially baronies ("capital baronies", "county seats") that collect some taxes from the other baronies (typically the bishopric and the city but some counties have several baronies while some have only one, the capital); (iv) if you have a vassal who desires the specific holding that you hold (which gives you a negative opinion bonus for each such holding, typically -25), give it to him; you will not only lose that negative modifier but also gain a positive one for granting him a barony, county or duchy (increasing with the rank of the title) -- you normally don't need to give them all the titles they desire, one should be enough; (v) check out which counties or baronies are more valuable (you want to keep them), i.e. If a ruler holds multiple titles, the succession laws of the highest ranked realm apply. demesne size. With Open Elective succession, all titles of the ruler are inherited by a random courtier or a new randomly generated character. Although normally is not posible, there's a way, when you get excommunicated, one of the things the patriarch can ask you to mend your excommunication is to change your succession law to Gavelkind, this will make The byzantine empire a Gavelkind, after 10 years you can change it to any law you want, even change it back to Imperial Elective, but this will disable the rest of the laws again CK3 Realm Succession Laws. In Primogeniture, older daughters inherit before younger sons. It is one of the most important concepts in Crusader Kings II, as it determines which character the player controls as the heir to the primary title. At the start of the game, and well into the first few centuries, you will only really have access to gravelkind succession which divides your lands amongst your eligible children. Or reduce them with old rulers, wait 10 years after succession to get them back. So create all the kingdoms you can. 6. If a ruler of, for example, king rank has multiple kingdom titles, the succession laws of each kingdom will apply for that kingdom, and the de jure territory of that kingdom. In order to see how this works, we'll have to start a new game. You can try to arrest that rebellious vassal later (he will only go to your prison if he surrenders to you; also, you will get +50 prestige bonus only when he surrenders, but when he white-peaces, then he loses 100 prestige but you gain 0). In Primogeniture, daughters will inherit before brothers or uncles, and daughters with sons will be prioritised over those without. and reassign it. There are three types of law affecting succession to a title: gender, realm and title. Voila c'est moi ou le cheat allow_laws ne peut pas mettre en primogéniture ? https://crusaderkings-two.fandom.com/wiki/Succession_Laws?oldid=13773, Has not previously changed  the succession law, No vassal of count rank or higher has a negative opinion of the ruler, Celtic culture (Breton, Irish, Scottish, or Welsh). Crusader Kings II Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. 5. Because with the death of your ruler, under primogeniture succession law, all your children and their children get a claim on the titles inherited by the oldest child. But don't give them away to just about anybody and don't make a random decision about which titles (counties, baronies) you want to give away. These are: Salic Primogeniture Semi-salic Primogeniture Salic Consanguinity Semi-salic Consanguinity Salic Gavelkind Semi-salic Gavelkind Elective Law The Law of Succession decides who the heir to any ruler in the game is. If the ruler holds too many elector titles the vassals will not approve. Because they are your vassals, they don't have their own crown authority, only can vote (or create a faction) to increase or decrease yours. Succession Laws Ck2 Rule Absolute Law and Legal Definition. 3. because you were at full demesne limit when your king died but your heir was a duke and had several holdings, so you're above the limit now but otherwise they don't hate you), then you prefer to give all the surplus land to your heir (he will have his own reservoir when he succeeds in turn, and he will be getting prestige from all the holdings), provided that you've already chosen his wife. (ii) If they already have honorary titles but haven't been given gifts yet and the cost of the gifts isn't prohibitive, then give them gifts (this tends to be cheaper than war anyway but not always). Characters cannot inherit any titles if they are:Furthermore, there are restrictions on inheritance between merchant republic titles and feudal titles. Sometimes just going down to two duchies (if you're a king) and to your demesne limit (for counties and baronies) and using honorary titles and/or cash gifts may be enough. If you confiscate a ducal title, remember not to have more than 2 if your vassals are still likely to rebel. You can toggle between them by clicking on the respective coat of arms in the 'Laws' window. If the ruler has no children that can inherit, the law reverts to Primogeniture. The most peaceful form of acquisition is the marriage of two houses, with the heir eventually managing to take both, so long as the succession laws in both lands work out. In Absolute Cognatic succession, women inherit on the same grounds men do. – Hazok Jan 30 '15 at 2:37 IIRC, if your main title has gavel and sub primo, the gavel goes to first son because gavel works that way and the subs have primo so they go to first as well. Having a good chancellor and a good diplomacy stat on your ruler and his wife helps. (x) if you are at or below your demesne limit, giving honorary titles (the boost is small, -10 for most titles and -15 for the better ones) should take priority before giving land; (xi) giving cash (the Send Gift diplomatic option) is still preferable rather than giving land in many circumstances, depending on the power of the character (if you can appease a duke with a 20 gold gift, it's better than giving him any land but some powerful vassals would require >400 gold for a gift and that's normally not preferable, you'd normally prefer to give a barony or county in such a case); (xii) if a potentially troublesome vassal would make a good councillor (isn't much worse than the best available candidate) or you desperately need that vassal's revolt risk to be eliminated, you can appoint him to the council; this is better than giving him valuable land; (xiii) remember to interrupt your donation spree if your intended recipients are already appeased (or would likely become appeased by an honorary title or comfortably small cash gift, depending on your economic power); remember that for each duchy or county or holding above the limit that you dispose of, all your vassals will hate you less (effectively improving their opinion of you by 10 per each such title until you're down to your limit); (xiv) if all you need is just to dispose of the surplus titles to get back down to your demesne limit then give everything to your heir, for example: because your vassals don't want (m)any specific titles and/or they hate you only moderately, i.e. Elective law is a Law of Succession in which the strongest vassal inherits. I do believe their current setup is quite nonsensical and not very realistic. One of the few non-gavelkind succession laws available to tribal rulers. In Agnatic succession, only males can inherit. 5) For big empires: if a vassals capital (thats where he is reigning) is to far away from your capital, these vassals get an increased revolt risk, with the percentage chance scaling with the distance. You may want to take white peace if you have several rebels. Each of those countries is treated separately, there is even no common laws about the heir's sex. Being of the same religion vs having a heretic vassal is 60% (!!) Montana is from Spanish montaña, which is literally just the word "mountain". 13. Papal candidates are judged on the same criteria used for the appointment of new cardinals. Primogeniture and gavelkind in CK2 explained. Any vassals that rebel will be treated as traitors. The oldest child of the ruler has a -30 opinion penalty towards their parent (if not the heir), all other dynasty members have a -5 opinion penalty, and all vassals have a +20 opinion boost. This is really powerful but you need to make sure the vassal is a capable guardian (good traits, good Learning stat, good other stats, appropriate culture), except the child is already hopeless impaired or an unimportant bastard. Crusader Kings 2 Set_government Command. Getting excommunicated means a lot of trouble because everybody has a Casus Belli against you and can declare war on you freely (perhaps existing truce will prevent this). Note that if you change your government type to one from a DLC that isn't installed, the game will end. The line of succession can be seen from the ruler's character screen. 4. Archived. Gavelkind is perhaps the worst possible succession law ever invented by man. There is no prestige penalty for having unlanded sons, and Gavelkind confers a 30% increase in max. Changing succession laws. ): (i) first of all, if you have the "wrong holding type" problem (icon representing a gate with bars), give those holdings away first (this is typically cities and bishoprics if you are a castle vassal, i.e. So if you’re a king and your kingdom is on Primogeniture/Seniority/Elective/etc., that law also applies to your duchies and counties. If you have the big vassals on your side, then you may actually not need to appease small vassals that just happen to be ambitious malcontents with poor stats or otherwise incompentent/dangerous people. 277. ___________________________________________________________________________________________. Don't have Feudal Taxes or Feudal Levies or Royal Authority any higher than you really need (or want) if successions are problematic. Every title in Crusader Kings II has 2 days ago Console commands are instructions to the game that players can use to cheat, .... With Gavelkind succession, the titles of the ruler are divided among his/her children. With Free Investiture, the title's secular liege specifies the successor. Features. This is the starting succession law for most tribal nations. You don't want to get excommunicated. Répéter pour revenir à la normale. Papal Elective is only available for the Papacy and the Fraticelli Papacy . Every title in Crusader Kings II has associated succession laws. on ck2+ you dont need to reform the faith to become feudal, so il just do both then thanks #9 < > Showing 1-9 of 9 comments . This command changes the succession type of your kingdom - i.e. Unfortunately we don’t have that luxury in Crusader Kings 3. Ah i see. 8. huge vassal revolt risk, vassals declaring war one by one) or anybody who could use some help in getting this stuff in order. Check out your advisors (crown icon in the top left), make sure your Steward and Chancellor are people with the highest stats available. The Innovation necessary to set that succession law doesn’t even appear until 1200AD and you still need to advance your culture far enough to unlock it. With Papal Elective succession, the title and any/all junior titles are inherited by a character elected from the College of Cardinals. demesne size. 6 new succession laws for non-Muslim feudal or tribal rulers. Investiture law decides if you or the Pope appoints bishops. 12. For example, if you're the King and you have Duchies A, B, C and D, you're better off giving full duchies A and B (and keeping full C and D) rather than a half of each. ); (v) Also, one more thing, actually: if you ask a vassal to educate a child (Educate Child diplomatic option) from your court, you will get a whole +20 opinion from that vassal (this stacks for two children, I think). Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Here's the miniguide to giving away titles (this may seem complicated but don't be scared! Summary. But the biggest advantage of having absolute cognatic succession is that it allows you to give landed titles to women. In corder to change your succession law to anything other than gavelkind, you must change your government type to feudal. The succession laws depend on the crown authority. 2. Avoid having counties in the duchies that belong to your duke vassals, or baronies that belong to your vassal counts unless they're safe and won't rebel. Crown authority is also needed to set some of the succession laws. Ck2 succession laws cheat. This is the default succession form of most realms in both 867 and 1066. Succession law []. Naples. In order to change the succession law to Seniority a ruler needs to meet the following conditions: With Primogeniture succession, all titles of the ruler are inherited by the oldest child. We will be dealing with the demesne give-away in a separate mini-guide below. Succession laws are hard coded, but if you want to enable ennatic succession, simply go the laws folder and you'll find it in there disabled with the line "always = no". The syntax for the succ command is as follows: succ [succession type id] This command has the following arguments: Succession Type ID: … holy war by a Muslim ruler or normal war by a claimant), you should probably offer white peace as soon as you're able, in order to avoid your vassal concluding peace with the new attacker and ceding land or becoming his vassal. In order to change the succession law to Gavelkind a ruler needs to meet the following conditions: With Seniority succession, all titles of the ruler are inherited by the oldest member of the dynasty. Fill your coffers, appoint vassals, root out traitors and heretics, introduce laws and interact with hundreds of nobles, each with their own agenda. Every title in. I worked out this methodology in a game played as a large kingdom (not empire, not multiple kingdoms but comparable in size to a small empire by end game). Options are restricted to certain ranks, cultures and faiths. Fired councillors have a negative opinion modifier (they dislike you for firing them), so hold on for a while, you can replace them when the times are calmer. Playing as Spain - now an Empire. #7. The ruler and each lower rank vassal (e.g. Aug 16, 2004 86 81. Or if you have one barony in your demesne, you can give that barony away and keep the county you've just taken from a traitor. The gender law determines which children can inherit claims. The oldest child of the ruler has a -30 opinion penalty towards their parent, all other dynasty members have a +10 opinion boost, and all vassals have a -10 opinion penalty. Before you give anybody any land, you first need to plan give away the excess duchies and the demesne holdings, if you have any. With Papal Investiture, the Pope specifies the successor. The solution to this is handing out far away counties to vassals who have their capital next to yours and NOT creating new vassals for the far away counties. One your main ruler dies you’ll either have a primary, but multiple heirs, or a single heir. This is in addition to the opinion modifier that all claimants get (between -20 for a claimant and -50 for a pretender). Being of your religion reduces the revolt risk of that vassal by 25%, that means an opinion of -25 with a vassal is a 0% revolt risk instead of 25%. Primogeniture (/ p r aɪ m-ə-/ also UK: /-oʊ-ˈ dʒ ɛ n ɪ tʃ ər /) is the right, by law or custom, of the firstborn legitimate child to inherit the parent's entire or main estate in preference to shared inheritance among all or some children, any illegitimate child or any collateral relative. See the troublemakers. If your rebelling vassal becomes attacked by someone else (e.g. Patrician Elective succession is only available to rulers of great merchant republics, and is the only succession law available to them. Succession is the distribution of a ruler's titles upon their death based on succession and gender laws of each title. For example, in Gavelkind, titles are split between sons and daughters with no reference to gender. With Crusader Kings 3’s punishing partition succession laws, you may find yourself wanting to get off of those as soon as possible. (I've actually done this successfully. It means that the king of Poland and Lithuania can subordinate to the primogeniture in one and to the feudal elective in the other. Spain's Law = Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture My current ruler (an empress) - is set to inherit France (from her mother, the Queen). In some aspects they differ drastically from reality. With Patrician Elective succession, the primary title (plus the county within which the capital is located) is inherited by one of the five heads of the grand Patrician families. In the absence of children, inheritance passes to collateral relatives in order of seniority of their lines of descent. My first idea was to edit the 'potential' and 'allow' parameters for primogeniture, to basically allow it for any feudal and tribal realm. Close. 7. Power is determined by the rank, and then number, of titles held. CK2 Console Commands; Succ Command; Crusader Kings 2 Succ Command. F. fish4198 Sergeant. A title succession law can be assigned to individual titles—besides the gender laws, these are all a form of elective succession. Set_government Syntax. See argument information for succession type IDs. A rule absolute is an order that can be enforced at once, in contradistinction to a rule nisi, which commands the opposite party to appear on a day therein named and show cause why he should not perform the act or … This article covers how to avoid succession crisis. Succession voting is a feature of six succession methods: Elective gavelkind, Tanistry, Eldership, Feudal elective, Princely elective, and Imperial elective. did they change it? 1) Make sure all your vassals are of your religion. With Free Investiture, bishops have a +25 opinion boost towards their liege, vassals who have their own vassal bishops have a +10 opinion boost, and the Pope has a -30 opinion penalty. Short recap of appeasing is as follows: you need to give excess duchies and excess or wrong type holdings anyway, so do that; you don't want to give more necessary, you want to give honorary titles rather than cash and cash rather than land; and if you only really need to get down to your demesne limit so that your vassals start to like you (e.g. 80 Badges. For added fun, there’s now three variants of … Sexy Succession. Bastards, disinherited and eunuchs never receive claims. Being of the same culture vs being of a different culture group is a 35% difference in revolt risk. However, if you are also the Duke of East Anglia (de jure part ofEngland), then that duchy will have its own succession laws. allow_laws: Vous autorise à changer librement les lois. 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